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'White power': Campus group stirs race debate
By Jessica Rafuse | Published  11/22/2006 | Campus news , News , Print
'White power': Campus group stirs race debate

Special to the Ryersonian

 man in white outfit

 Photo taken from Facebook.com

 An unidentified man in a white body suit poses in a photo posted on a Facebook group about white culture. The photo has since been removed.
Some white students at Ryerson are uniting on Facebook to announce their status as white minorities in response to increased diversity on campus.

An online group called “I’m a White Minority @ Ryerson” has attracted 64 users since it was created in early November by Quinton Coish, 23, a fifth-year information technology management student.

“I just thought it was funny and it’s kind of true,” Coish said when asked why he created the group. “Depending on the program you’re in, you’re a (white) minority, which is different than it was 50 years ago.”

The group’s online profile, hosted on Facebook, a popular networking site for university students, describes itself as, “Ryerson's first Ethnic/Cultural Group for white people!” It contains postings welcoming redneck jokes, asking where their RSU student group money is, and was updated last Sunday to state, “No, this is not a group for those who are racist.”

On a campus that celebrates and values diversity as a significant feature that defines the Ryerson University experience, an online group like this raises more than just eyebrows.

Is it funny to joke about it?

“It’s a sign that they think things have progressed enough that they can joke about whiteness,” said Cheryl Teelucksingh, a sociology professor at Ryerson who specializes in race, ethnicity and diversity. “What is missing here is a lack of awareness of white privilege and how it operates.”

When the Ryersonian showed print outs of the group’s online profile to President Sheldon Levy, he said he didn’t know anything about it, but that, “it certainly doesn’t sound at all like something that belongs here.”

For Jen Pringle, being part of the group has more to do with the irony of being in a minority group whose members are generally considered to be a majority.

“When I hear about it creating conflict, does that mean we’ll be pinned as being racist and trying to be white supremacists? It’s absolutely not about that,” said Pringle, a fourth-year student in arts and contemporary studies who is focusing on equity and diversity studies. “Honestly, it’s about poking fun at being white.”

Ryerson sociology professor Fiona Whittington-Walsh doesn’t buy it.

“I think it’s disturbing that they’re arguing reverse racism,” said Whittington-Walsh, who has concentrated on media, race and ethnicity. “It’s saying that if it’s funny or a joke, it somehow legitimizes the hate behind it.”

Both Coish and Pringle argue there is no hidden meaning behind the group.

“We’re in no way trying to perpetuate any sort of idea of white dominance or that diversity shouldn’t be allowed,” Pringle said.

“I just think back to first year. When you come in, if you’re Christian or into Buddhism you have a group you can probably join. If you’re Asian or Indian you have a group that’s set up to welcome you,” Coish said. “But if you’re a Caucasian student, what do you do?”

Coish is currently the treasurer for the adventure society on campus and acknowledges there are a handful of non-cultural interest groups he could join. He said he also and understands he’s welcome to join cultural clubs on campus.

But he doesn’t think there are cultural groups that exist for people like him, and thinks this online group is a way to humorously comment on what he thinks is an absence of white culture, and to connect those of similar minds.

 “I just feel like everyone has stuff in common with each other except white people, and we are basically the outcasts,” said group member Josh Horowitz, a third year business student at Ryerson. “I joined the group because I thought it was funny and because it is totally true.”

In an effort to protect its group members, Coish made the group private last week, meaning only members of the group can access its bulletin board, forum and photo gallery. Coish added that the group does not discriminate about who can join.

The photo gallery includes one with Caucasians wearing helmets sitting in the back seat of a car with a caption that reads, “Minorities need to be protected.” There’s also one with students holding shot glasses of liquor with the caption, “Cheers to being a white minority @ Ryerson.” Another photo showed six spoons being held over a man’s head, with the caption, “Minorities need to be fed (preferably with a spoon),” which Coish says is a random picture from a party and the caption, “really has no meaning to it.”

Coish took down a more controversial photo of a friend who was photographed at a party wearing all white. Coish said the photo was taken months ago and that the man’s clothing wasn’t intentional and had no connection to the group.

Comments made by group members on the wall (bulletin) express, “Finally white power at Ryerson”; “I've been upset that I can't be part of any group/club at Ryerson…Good thing this came along,”; “This whole thing feels kind of wrong but I like it, if there can be Asian associations why can’t there be a white club?”

There is also a White Culture Club on Facebook that has 18 members in total who all attend Ryerson. It has been inactive since August but makes similar claims that white students have become minorities on campus and that the group is not racist.

Facebook does review reports of offensive group pictures and comments, but was unable to be reached for comment on the groups content in time for press.

“There is a latent ideology that is problematic,” Teelucksingh said of the groups’ profiles, adding that while these groups do ignore minorities’ need for space, “they don’t seem to be expressing any specific hate; it’s more, ‘what about me?’”

“It’s not trying to make a statement,” Coish said, adding that he doesn’t plan on approaching the RSU to register a white minority group.

“This is as far as this one goes.”

Comments
  • Comment #1 (Posted by Martin Douglas)

    Well Balanced article, however isn't there a club/group that includes everyone? Why should there be any groups clubs based on skin color or heritage?
     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by Jen Pringle)

    I remember specifically saying in my interview how REAL racism is and that it should not be tollerated.

    With one of the professors stating " there is a lack of understanding that there is white privelage"

    I also in my interview indicated the above statement- maybe that should have been posted?!!

    I hope that there is another article written about this- with my real views in place.

    Jen
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by Quinton Coish)

    I suggest you take a look at the group in question here:
    http://ryerson.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2218559076

    Plenty of intelligent comments to go with the story.
     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by Anonymous)

    Nothing should be made out of this facebook group. It is just implying what is obvious today in Toronto and Canada wide.
     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by Becky)

    All this article comes across as is an attack on Quinton and Jen. Anyone who knows these two would know they are not racist, and if someone of any other race had posted this group there would not be an article about it. If you want to take this article and make it negative Jessica, at least include your own opinions, not what you want everyone else to say for you. It's pathetic.
     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by Jessica Rafuse)

    If you choose to see this as negative, perhaps that speaks more to your own fears and perceptions of the group.

    The construction of this piece gives weight to several views, and does not play favorites.

    And when was anything pinned as being racist?
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by Anonymous)

    Who had the problem with the group in the first place? It seems that the Ryersonian started it. Have there been complaints thus far? It seems to me that without a proper and formal complaint regarding the group, which is clearly not about racism, rather being able to fit in and be part of something at Ryerson, the entire article should be scrapped. And to argue that it's not difficult to be part of a student group is crap. Sure we're all a part of RSU, but that really isn't considered "being involved" and it's not something you can put on a resume. Most groups are very small and are not intended for the general student body. Course unions are limited to the election process to fill specific positions and all other groups are deemed by interested and by maximum capacity. And this makes sense when you consider that not EVERY student wants to be involved and that Ryerson has tens of thousands of students. So then what about those people who aren't a jock, who aren't culturally diverse and who aren't political, for example? Where do we fit in?

    But before you go bashing a group on FACEBOOK, try to find some real valid controversy somewhere, or back up the article with an intial complaint, rather than just stirring up a garbage article about race at Ryerson.
     
  • Comment #8 (Posted by SP)

    liked the article, though i dont believe facebook is that important of a topic.

    also, to counter the first post, the point of groups and clubs is to not include everyone. its to include people based on their beliefs, likes, dislikes or other criteria. mabye i will make a group for that on facebook. the everyone group. everyone can join and write anything. as long as everyone else doesnt get offended...or disagrees. just my 2 cents .hope i dont upset anyone.
     
  • Comment #9 (Posted by an unknown user)

    Seriously guy, you are taking this way too personally.

    I think it's an interesting topic. I'm glad it was written. It's somewhat lame that a bunch of white kids feel lonely and need to make a club about it. Go to the bar!

    If you ever look at a regular newspaper, I'm sure you'll find people writing about interesting/provocative topics, just for the sake of informing people of what's going on!
     
  • Comment #10 (Posted by Alex Mazepa)

    The article does say a lot about a real issue. Unlike Becky who seems bent on finger pointing, this article raises an issue a lot of people in the "majority" feel. I know I do sometimes, being a white Canadian of no religion, or cultural affiliation.

    Cheryl Teelucksingh is probably right with, “What is missing here is a lack of awareness of white privilege and how it operates.” Perhaps she should even act on telling our generation how and why we should be aware of our white privilege. We are a generation that is bred to be tolerant and un-hating at a level beyond that of previous generations who sometimes socially identified themselves by such hate groups. Of course intolerance in our generation still exists in some forms and even in more extreme forms, but more often then not there is currently a vacuum for people like me who exist in the faceless majority and don't actually belong anywhere because of who we are or the lack of who we are.


     
  • Comment #11 (Posted by JASON C)

    This article made me laugh out loud while I was sitting alone at my desk. People around me must have thought i was crazy or something. Good job guys. I am not a student at Ryerson U, so I cannot comment on anything regarding social groups at the school. On the other hand, I am a resident of Markham so I can absolutely relate to being a white minority. I am not racist but I do hate Honda Civics.
     
  • Comment #12 (Posted by Kevin.R)

    Just to add my two cents, at first this article really angered me because it didn't look at why some students truly do feel like a minority at Ryerson. Instead it gives the reader the impression that its saying "how dare you feel this way". For myself I love how Ryerson is so diverse,especially coming from another university that wasn't. What my problem is , is that the really the only clubs available to me are the business union clubs, or the rowing club. I feel that by not having many non cultural clubs to balance cultural clubs people are still separating themselves, and like Jen Watts editorial shows this is leading to political behavior and putting group against group. This isnt full diversity. I feel diversity is where we can go "Wow thats great that you're 'blank' " where we all have a collective concern for one another, and we arent more likely to speak with and be friends with someone just because they are part of your same group.
     
  • Comment #13 (Posted by Kristyn Wong-Tam, Chinese Canadian National Counci)

    This White minority student group has a very simplistic view on racial equity and white skin privilege. Especially how the two interact and intersect in a city and country that is far from immune to racist behaviour, either produced by individuals or institutions.

    It was not too long ago in Canadian history that social clubs, posted signs, welcoming "Whites only" or prohibiting access to private or public property to "Chinese and dogs".

    I think the most disturbing thing about this "white power" group is the political and social impact that it could have on other students and faculty members, especially those that have been directly effected by white supremist actions and language. "White power" or even exclusively all-White groups in a social-political environment that values and rewards "whiteness" or Eurocentric norms and notions can adversely trigger even the most socially and politically sophisticated people. I know that it sends a shiver down my back, when "white power" is referred to even in "joking."

    Poor taste does not excuse poor behaviour.
     
  • Comment #14 (Posted by Anonymous)

    In response to Kirsten Wong's comment, I advise her to read the board, and perhaps look at what it is all about. It is NOT about 'white power' and nowhere does it mention the words 'white power' or any other term insinuating that white people are better than people of other race (because we all know it is not true).

    In fact, as white person, the only group of people I have felt racism from is from the Asian community, and their refusal to allow a non-Chinese descendant to be allowed in the Chinese Student Association at UofT.

    No one is denying that racism has occurred in the past, and no one is saying that it is not occurring in the future. However, it is not to say that someone is racist simply because of their skin colour.

    Keep that in mind please before you deflect your racial tones towards people from other cultures.
     
  • Comment #15 (Posted by an unknown user)

    This narrow-minded article gives rise to White segregation of a community in which they are the minority. I feel if you can have an Indian student's association, an Asian students association (be it specifically Chinese, or other), and a Black student's association, I don't see an issue with one for White people.

    Please, give me insight into these other cultural groups. What is it about them that is not racist, and yet stands to make the White cultural group racist?

    Ryerson University and the Ryersonian owe Quinton and Jen an apology.
     
  • Comment #16 (Posted by an unknown user)

    Racism is not a narrowly defined term. In a time where real minorities are still underprivileged by virtue of not being white, it's inappropriate to act as though whites need more attention.

    For something that's supposed to be really funny, not many people are laughing, or keeping this group up in the nature it was supposedly intended.
     
  • Comment #17 (Posted by RyersOnline Staff)

    Comments for this story are now closed. Thank you for your interest.
     
  • Comment #18 (Posted by Adam Yerkie)

    Wow. After doing a bit of research for a follow up article on this I came across your post at the stormfront message board. Congrats on taking them on like that. Your arguments were well articulated and it took a lot of gumption to take them on that way. Impressive.
     
  • Comment #19 (Posted by Jay)

    Being a minority is about more than numbers; its about power differentials. Therefore, regardless of their numerical representation, based on the white privilege that is characteristic of our society, they still remain the majority
     
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