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RSU says 'no' to Facebook group
By David George-Cosh | Published  11/29/2006 | Campus news , News , Print
RSU says 'no' to Facebook group

An online group on Facebook.com called “I’m a White Minority @ Ryerson” has been denounced by the Ryerson Students’ Union Board of Directors for encouraging prejudice and has been voluntarily closed by its creator.

At the meeting held on Monday night, an emergency motion was moved by Heather Kere, president of the United Black Students at Ryerson, that the “Facebook group, (I’m a White Minority @ Ryerson) be publicly denounced for encouraging prejudice on campus.” The motion was passed.

RSU president Muhammad Ali Jabbar, who was at the meeting, said that the RSU had decided to take a stand against the website and speak out against it after receiving a number of complaints from members of the Ryerson community.

“My initial reaction after seeing it on Facebook was, ‘Hmm, this is interesting.’ But it wasn’t until I heard concerns from students that we decided to act,” said Jabbar. “It’s a positive step. People are recognizing that what was a joke maybe isn’t a joke.”

Jabbar said that the RSU plans to start a number of anti-racist training sessions and workshops on marginalized communities and publish an anti-racist fact sheet in light of the RSU board motion It will start the program next semester.

“Anything that’s discriminatory or racism should not be tolerated,” he said.
 
According to Quinton Coish, 23, a fifth-year information technology management student and the group’s creator, the group has been voluntarily closed. It was absent from Facebook, a popular online networking website, beginning on Tuesday.

Coish declined to comment on why he decided to remove the group or if he would re-open it in the future.

Coish, who said he heard about the motion informally from a friend, said he’s shocked that members from the RSU have responded to his group with this motion without contacting him personally to talk about it.

“I’ve received a lot of positive feedback from friends and members of my family. I’ve also received a number of negative feedback, but I’m not going to comment on what was said to me,” said Coish.

Still, Coish maintains that he’s done nothing wrong and feels that his association with this group shouldn’t label him as a racist.

“Don’t pin me as a racist, as that’s what this group wasn’t intended to be from the beginning. It was meant to be a joke,” said Coish.

However, Patrick Hunter, communications director of the Canadian Race Relations Foundation, isn’t laughing at Coish’s intended joke. He said that the Facebook users who choose to join the group and call themselves a “white minority” are insulting and ignoring the fact that white privilege is still a major part of today’s society.

“To them, this group may seem to be innocuous and it’s not hurting anyone. But in fact, what they're doing is placing themselves on par as racialized people who genuinely face the impact of racial discrimination on a daily basis,” said Hunter.

“I think they need to understand the impact racialized people face. It's a painful experience. And I don't think they've experienced that.”

Elizabeth McManus, a 19-year-old (white) interior design student, said that calling whites a minority “doesn’t make sense” because white people dominate in numbers and in positions of power in society.   

“It’s too bad they consider themselves a minority, when we’re dominant,” she said. “We have to respect the other cultures, too.” 

Shoaib Ahmed, 24, a second-year business management student and current communications director for the Muslim Students’ Association, said that the group’s intention of being a joke falls short.

“I think they’re shooting themselves in the foot. They’re making fun of their own and it just doesn’t seem right. Looking at it from the perspective that they were calling it a joke, it would be the same as, during Halloween, someone dressing up as Osama bin Laden. It could give a message where all Muslims are terrorists or just a silly way of attracting attention,” said Ahmed.

He also said he worried the group’s creation may produce a “snowball effect.”

“One day someone does this, the next day someone does something bigger and before you know it, it could get really ugly,” said Ahmed. “It doesn’t seem appropriate.”

However, Thaddeus Mark, 19, a Chinese Christian Fellowship at Ryerson member and second-year mechanical engineering student, said he wasn’t offended with the Ryerson white minority online group.

"On Facebook, you're free to do whatever you want because I believe in freedom of speech when you're on the Internet," said Mark. "But if people feel that way, they're entitled to their opinion. It could offend somebody, but anything could offend someone. You're never going to please everybody."

The online group had more than doubled in size to about 140 members after The Ryersonian published a story on Nov. 22 detailing the group’s existence on Facebook, a popular networking site for university students.

After the story was published, many new members posted on the group’s discussion board in support of the online group’s existence, and encouraged the group’s administrator to keep the website open to foster debate on what they believed was a significant issue on campus. Also after the article ran, several discriminatory comments, including one by a user who spoke of “white power,” were deleted as well.

Comments
  • Comment #1 (Posted by Quinton Coish)

    Yet again, I find it disturbing to be misquoted.

    “I’ve received a lot of positive feedback from friends and members of my family. I’ve also received a number of negative feedback, but I’m not going to comment on what was said to me,” said Coish.

    First of all, I never said "I’ve also received a number of negative feedback". What was stated is that, yes, I have received some negative feedback. However, this negative feedback is minimal and is in no way comparable to the amount of positive feedback. (the only negative feedback came from Ryerson's Administration on Monday afternoon).

    “Don’t pin me as a racist, as that’s what this group wasn’t intended to be from the beginning. It was meant to be a joke,” said Coish.

    First of all, those who know me realize I don't talk like that. Secondly, I am going to take the opportunity to state that 'THIS IS NOT A JOKE'. Whether you believe this or not is an entirely different issue.

    "Coish declined to comment on why he decided to remove the group or if he would re-open it in the future." You can find a new group that falls under the name of "I'm a White Minority @ a Toronto University". Anyone is free to join. I also suggest you take a look at the White Culture Club.

    "Still, Coish maintains that he’s done nothing wrong"
    This has been stated correctly.

    -Quinton
     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by matt)

    The term "white minority" is beyond hipster irony-- it's a fundamental paradox. It's funny only because you have the luxury to laugh about it without actually experiencing the stress of being a minority. Racism isn't just a list of terms you shouldn't call people.. it's an attitude of ignorance and intolerance.

    The inability of whites to see their position of power and how they are affecting real minorities is a major part of this society's racial problems. The privilege is so ingrained that it seems invisible to those who have it. In turn, many don't realize what those without power must deal with, and let empty terms like "diversity" and "multiculturalism" paint a rosy picture of harmony. This is the inherent ignorance.

    The attitude of "why do they get to have special groups" is actually one of intolerance. One of the main objectives of cultural groups is to empower its members to offset the pressures of living in this society. Thus, if you understand the power structures of society, you will see the offensive absurdity of a so-called White Culture club. This kind of social group not only tolerates these ignorant attitudes, but promotes and perpetuates them as well.
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by Kevin.R)

    I think the Ryersonian misses the point yet again!! While this group was started as just poking fun at something now its much more that the Ryersonian, if they had read the Facebook postings, did not address.

    The majority of Ryersons clubs are ethnically based clubs, and being a diverse campus like we are there should be much more of an option for the entire university population to co-mingle instead of separating our selves which could be preventing this political behavior that we are seeing ( group against group, one group trying to get their concerns put above another).

    It has been noted recently that eventually ethnic groups will be in the majority and I think being in our ethnic groups we are preventing the integration of everyone. As seen even in your newspaper there are still tensions between communities trickling down from international issues ( the Kashmir , Israel vs Palestine) problems like these only occur when we separate ourselves and are unable to see from another viewpoint.

    So before you claim racism which is a very heavily weighted term to be throwing around ,look at the deeper issue which I think the Ryersonian, RSU and the university has completely missed.
     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by ym)

    Well said.

    It's ridiculous how proud Coish still is about his act of pure ignorance and insensitivity. At least realizing his priviledge might stop him from making another mockery of the already disadvantaged groups in this country.
     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by an unknown user)

    I think its a bit closed-minded to think that white people never have to deal with prejudice. I"m a white female in a VERY male dominated program. Per 100 male students, there is approximately 2-3 female students. You try being a white girl in a class full of Asian and Middle Eastern men (white men are a minority here too) who won't talk to you because you're different, albeit because I'm white, because I'm female or for whatever reason.

    My first three weeks at Ryerson were hell because of that and I'm lucky I'm an outgoing person and was able to meet people because otherwise I'd have switched programs or schools. I'm not saying that I was made fun of for being white, who knows maybe I was. But it isn't very settling to be differentiated from everyone else and have peoples' behaviour 'adjust' because you're different.

    There's no groups I can join if I want to get involved. I"m Canadian and that's as far back as it goes. I'm not religious, so there goes the Christian, Pagan and Catholic groups. I'm not Indonesian, Chinese, African, Russian, Sikh, or Vietnamese. I don't like anime and I'm not a law or journalism student, I'm not an actress, and I'm not a political person.

    There are 15 non-race related groups available to students out of a whopping 55 groups. So 73% of all student groups at Ryerson are race-related. So then what the hell am I supposed to join? Course Unions are generally elected positions and I can't run for a position on ANY course union. Doesn't make much sense now does it.

    "I'm a White Minority @ Ryerson", "White Culture Club" and all other similar groups are being completely misunderstood and it's sad that Coish was completely misquoted. It's not about being BETTER than anyone else, or seeing yourselves as worth more. It's about fitting in, something everyone has wanted at one time or another. We may not have had all the hardships of other races, but it still feels just as shitty when you're singled out because of your color. Don't think it doesn't happen to white people, or you're very unobservant and naive.
     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by an unknown user)

    Here are some examples of groups that exist on campus officially, but no mention is made of them being racist (these are sponsored student groups by the way)

    - South Asian Alliance
    - Chinese Students' Association
    - Chinese Debate Club
    - United BLACK Students at Ryerson.

    + Jewish students association at Ryerson

    But if white people (WHO ARE THE MINORITY IN TORONTO NOW) try to have a group, they are called "racist."

    More politically correct feminism at Canadian Universities. Why am I not surprised.
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by Nicholas Morine)

    Yea, a "White Group" is racist, but a "Black Group" is not.

    If you're allowed to associate with your own race and call it "cultural", obviously the white students should be able to as well.

    I pray for the day that race politics dies, and this multicultural crap alongside it. We should worry more about being Canadians, regardless of colour.
     
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